Read the following article:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/online-threats-case-show-u-justices-down-rap-130148691--finance.html
Answer the following questions related to the article:
1. In what state and year did the original threat take place?
2. Who all did Elonis threaten in his Facebook posts? Who did he say he was emulating?
3. With what type of music are the Supreme Court Judges usually associated?
4. Does a Supreme Court judge have the right to tell someone that the music they make or listen to is too violent?
5. Do you agree with Elonis' lawyers that he and the rappers are being held to a double standard?
6. How much can a rapper or other celebrity be held responsible for Elonis' actions?
7. How far is morally too far when it comes to entertainment?
Olivia LeComte
ReplyDelete1) Pennsylvania
2) His wife and FBI agents. He claimed to be emulating Eminem.
3) Opera
4) No it is unconstitutional for the Supreme Court to regulate speech or expression.
5) yes it is perceived as more violent than any other form of music because it is rap.
6) They can't, they are all adults capable of making their own decisions.
7) It goes too far when it comes to the nonconsensual emotional or physical injury of a human being.
Ke-Anna' Rich: 1. Pennsylvania, 2010
ReplyDelete2. His wife, the police, and various others; rappers (Eminem)
3. Opera
4. No
5. I agree and disagree, because the rappers aren't exactly threatening an actual person's life, but it is still a threat.
6. I don't think they can be held responsible for his actions at all. Just because you hear someone else make a threat, it doesn't mean you should to do the same.
7. I think talking about killing others is too far, but that's all people seem to care about.
kat phillips
ReplyDelete1. 2010
2. his wife , law enforcement officers and others
3.rap
4.not at all
5. yes
6. i think they cant be held accountable but they should be held at the same standered as everyone else because they are people too.
7. i believe that it should be nothing about killing or hurting someone or anything that could be related to a threat.
Grace Singley
ReplyDelete1. Pennsylvania in 2010
2. His wife, law enforcement officers, and others. He says he was emulating Eminem.
3. Usually more with opera
4. No, I can see how something can be too violent but really its one's personal opinion.
5. Yes, I agree because if someone is winning awards off of this kind of violent rapping and someone else is in jail for the same type of thing I do not think that is fair at all. they should either both be put in jail or both be able to rap.
6. I mean it could still come back around to other celebrities but ultimately it is Elonis' own problem because he didn't have to be like anyone and post the lyrics in the first place.
7. I think that rapping about killing someone is going too far. They may just be trying to speak their mind but to me it really isn't entertaining to listen to that.
Carter Billings 3rd (1 This took place in Pennsylvania in 2010. (2 He was threating his wife and he was trying to emulate rappers such as Eminem. (3 The Supreme Court Judges are usually associated with opera. (4 No I don't think that the judge has the right to control what music you make or listen to. (5 Yes, I do think that there is a double standard. If a man can go to jail for something that someone is making money off of I think that it is an issue. (6 It is not the rapper or celebrity's fault for Elonis being in jail. Yes, they may have wrote something to inspire the post, but in the end he is the one to type the words and hit that post button. (7 I think when it comes to entertainment when you threaten someone or national security and you have the background to do something like that I think that you have gone far.
ReplyDeleteReagan Ross.
ReplyDelete1) Pennsylvania; 2010
2) He was threatening his wife, Law enforcement officers, and others; Eminem
3) Opera.
4) no, they don't, and this question makes me angry. we should be able to listen to whatever we want. the lyrics directly are not harming other people in a physical sense. maybe emotionally, but that is NONE of their concern. for example, i can write about whatever i want. it may have consequences, but that's with ME, not the court. they do not decide what is too violent or what is appropriate, that's insane. I'll do what I please pertaining to music and I advise others to do the same. i am not a puppet on a string and I will listen to whatever music I would like to, and the fancy Supreme Court judge shouldn't "judge" anyone's taste in music.
5) yes.
6) NONE. this blog is seeming to reveal some underlying anger pertaining to the music industry and faults behind lyrics. if I write a song about killing my cat, and a little girl goes and kills her cat after listening to my song, it isn't my fault. her mother shouldnt have let the kitty out of her sight, should have kept an eye on her daughter, or put her in an institution because its on HER if she killed her cat. music is for expression, therefore we should be able to express ourselves without having to take the blame for other people's actions just for our songs. speaking of this, one of Eminem's songs (yes, I know all of them) mentions something similar to this. he discusses someone taking a gun and shooting it and saying Eminem did it. meaning, he didn't do this but people try to blame their actions on his words. it's quite fitting for this discussion.
7) i don't understand this question at all.
Emily Keller
ReplyDelete1) Pennsylvania, 2010
2) his wife, Eminem
3) opera
4) no, music is a right of passage. No one if forcing you to listen to Elonis' music.
5) yes. Elonis is being treated differently because he's not as famous as Eminem.
6)Elonis did nothing wrong besides do what he is passionate about, rapping.
7) we all have different ideas of what is morally wrong. it is not up to one person to decide what is wrong and what is right. i believe that Elonis did nothing wrong, this whole case is a stupid idea.
Kayla Fincher
ReplyDelete1.Washington, 2010
2.his wife and others,lyrics from a Eminem song
3. opera
4. yes, if music is to violent it can have a violent effect on the people who listening to it.
5. no the rappers shouldn't be aloud to rap about violent actions such as killing someone.
6. a lot but they don't take all the blame because Elonis shouldn't post violent things just like people shouldn't sing violent things.
7. If the writer thinks the song,show, etc. will hurt someone emotionally or offend them then it shouldn't be published or let out to the public.
Makenzie Taylor
ReplyDelete1) The threats took place in Pennsylvania during the year 2010.
2) Elonis threatened his wife, law enforcement officers, and other people in his Facebook posts. Elonis says he was emulating Eminem.
3) Supreme Court judges are usually associated with opera.
4) A Supreme Court judge does not have the right to tell someone that the music they listen to or make is too violent. People should at least have that right.
5) I do think that they are being held to a double standard. Because Elonis claims his posts were rap lyrics of these certain rappers. However, aiming these seemingly violent lyrics towards certain people can easily be interpreted by in a different way. Especially if they are somebody that you do not have the best relationship with. Like an estranged wife for example.
6) Well, the artist is making what they want to and it is probably meant to be taken in a more artistic way than an actual threat. Elonis took it the wrong way and that is not the artists intentions at all. Elonis should maybe have taken a more cautious path when dealing with his anger.
7) In my opinion, what is "morally too far" is all up to the artist themselves. My morals are pretty different than what morals are reflected in today's rap. I know a lot of people who enjoy Eminem and other rappers' music and take no offense to them at all. The reception matters as much as the intention.
Lynsey Simpson:
ReplyDelete1. Pennsylvania, 2010
2. his wife and law enforcement officers, Eminem
3. rap
4. No, its the persons choice, but I don't think that people should listen to violent music anyways, because you will start to have emotions relating to your music and might have violent actions.
5. Yes, because i would love to see someone try and take Eminem or Jay-Z to court because of their "work of art" they've produced with the same kind of lyrics or word and see all of their fans blow up, but when a not famous man uses the same wording, those same fans are saying "oh that's awful" or "I can't believe someone would say that" when their idols are saying the same thing, but putting a catchy beat to it.
6. i don't think that they'll be held to anything because of how famous they are, and we don't need to have famous people feeling invincible so they don't have to abide by the law.
7. When you start screaming cuss words every other word, and when you start talking about killing people, i think the moral line is crossed in many ways for different people, depending on what your morals are.
Josie Parham
ReplyDelete1- Pennsylvania, 2010
2- His wife: Eminem
3- Opera
4- No, because we have the freedom of expression and if that person wants to express themselves listening to that type of music its their choice.
5- Yes, because the rapper is saying just as violent things as Elonis and Elonis is getting punished because his lyrics aren't Grammy winners and happen to be about his wife, but it is also a bit disturbing that he is talking about murdering his wife but if he gets in trouble so should the rapper.
6- They cant be held that accountable because they are making money and its popular and the lawyers cant officially prove that he used their lyrics even though they use the exact type of rap style they wont get in trouble because it will be too much controversy.
7- I think morally to far is just when the f-bomb is dropped every other word and you have to worry about your child hearing those vulgar things because nowadays its everywhere. So i think that morally too far is something that is also everyone's own opinion because it doesn't bother some people and i think that's the problem.
Lorenzo B. Winston:
ReplyDelete1. The original threat takes place in Pennsylvania in the year of 2010.
2. Elonis threatens his wife, law enforcement officers, and others. He was emulating rappers such as Wu-Tang Clan and Jay-Z.
3. The Supreme Court Judges are usually associated with opera music.
4. I don’t think that the Supreme Court Judge has the right to tell someone that the music they make or listen to is too violent. Words are words that are just said, especially when it comes to rap. Rapping is basically expressing your inner feelings through words and a beat. Now I understand if they are using direct lyrics towards someone and are saying that they’ll get their AK-47 and kill him, but I don’t think that it should go all the way to the Supreme Court because they’re still just words; doesn’t mean that they are going to engage in that activity.
5. I agree with Elonis’ lawyers because the Supreme Court Judge is basically trying to say that rappers or rap music is the only thing in the music business that uses violence in their lyrics which I think is very double standard and prejudice.
6. I think that a rapper or other celebrity has no responsibility for Elonis’ actions. Whatever Elonis does that has to do with the five senses, he is held responsible and accountable for. If Elonis followed what another rapper did, Elonis has total responsibility for what he did and not the other rapper or celebrity. No one else can be held responsible of Elonis’ action but Elonis.
7. In my opinion, it comes too far when it comes to entertainment when someone posts a picture of them nude or doing pornography. Why would you post a video or picture of yourself engaging in sexual activity with another person for the whole world to see? I mean, people are just carelessly posting nude pictures of themselves and they are not being judged because it’s just a picture of them naked, i.e. strippers (quotes by society). When engaging in sexual activity, things like that should be kept in private for only you to see, and plain nude pictures, in my opinion.
Sydney Emmons 3rd pd.
ReplyDelete1. Pennsylvania in 2010
2. They were aimed at his wife at the time. He claims he was imitating Eminem.
3. Opera
4. No, because we have the right to listen to what we want. Freedom of expression through music.
5. Yes, because many celebrity rappers are saying many violent things in their music and people dont say much about it but when a non-celebrity rapper decides to use the lyrics, then everyone seems to go against him. It's very wrong in my opinion.
6. A rapper shouldn't be held responsible because Elonis was the one that decided to use the lyrics against his wife. But honestly i dont think Elonis should be punished anyway.
7. Honestly you cant go to far with music in my opinion because if you dont like it, then dont listen to it. If someone makes a song and you think its "morally wrong" then DONT LISTEN TO IT. its that easy..
I- Pennsylvania
ReplyDeleteII- "his wife, law enforcement officers and others"
III- rap, yo
IV- No
V- Yes, and that's not cool
VI- Not much. Its not another rapper's fault, it's (of course) media and society's
VII- I don't think there's a limit to music, but obviously you shouldn't use other media to film or make something like a guy murdering a person in a basement for the pleasure of some sadist
Alex Turner 3rd period
ReplyDelete1. Washington 2010
2. wife, law enforcement officers, and others
3. Rap
4. No, they do not that is like taking away freedom of speech.
5. Yes
6. I think they can be held to the standard of being an influence but beyond that it is that person's decision what to do with it.
7. I believe they ( the music entertainers) put out what they know others their fans are going through or have and it is your decision whether or not to listen to it.
Melody Ashcraft
ReplyDelete1. Pennsylvania. 2014
2. His wife and a female FBI agent
3. Rap music
4. No, because people can listen to a certain type of music for different reasons and can interpret the messages differently .
5. No. A crime is a crime
6. I do not believe a rapper or other celebrity should be held responsible for Elonis' actions because they did not make him post the threats. Their lyrics can be misinterpreted by different people.
7. I believe that it becomes morally too far when it starts to harm others or make other people uncomfortable. I believe one should be able to listen and watch what that person wants to as long as it is not affecting another person.
1. In Pennsylvania in 2010
ReplyDelete2. His wife and others; he said that he was emulating Eminem
3. Opera
4. No, but they do have a right to uphold the law and indict someone for threatening somebody's life.
5. Yes, they definitely are. Eminem has rapped about murdering his daughters and his wife on multiple occasions and has never suffered any serious consequences. Psychopaths belong in prison.
6. Not much, I believe it is the reception to Eminem's music that has conditioned the easily influenced in our society to believe that that behavior is acceptable.
7. It crosses the line when threats are being made and someone's well being isn't guaranteed. Threats, no matter what, should be recognized as such and the maker of said threats should be punished.
Troy Banks
ReplyDelete1. Pennsylvania & 2010
2. FBI agents, his wife, and kindergarten classes. & Eminem
3. Opera
4. No.
5. Partially. But Eminem is a rapper, and in today's society, it is socially acceptable for rappers to write and perform violent music.
6. Half. The celebrities create the material but it was Elonis' choice to post the material.
7. It depends on a lot of things, such as the topic, exactly what was said, how it was said, when it was said. There are really too many factors for me to be able to say, "This is where it becomes immoral."
MacKenzie Jones
ReplyDelete1.) Pennsylvania
2.) His wife, law enforcement officers, and others; Eminem.
3.) Opera
4.) Yes, BUT they have no right to tell them to stop making it or listening to it.
5.) Yes, because they're doing the exact same thing he did and its literally for the whole world to see. Plus they probably do that a lot more often than he does. This is just like that time where Justin Bieber got caught doing drugs and just because he's one of the most famous people in the world others felt the need to go and hate on him about it and calling him a terrible person but you see pictures constantly of these other famous people doing drugs and drinking AND making songs about it and they don't get crap about it? There's people who obviously have done, and still do worse but he is the one who gets the worse treatment just because he's a lot more famous.
6.) To me I see it more as they influenced and inspired the person more so than them holding complete responsibility, because did they make him post those threats or come up with those lyrics? No so that was HIS choice to do that so they cant be held responsible for his actions, just for influencing/inspiring them.
7.) Personally I think it comes to far when it could possibly have an effect on someone in a bad way. Like if someone makes a song and it offends someone like a lot then that could effect that person. But its that persons choice weather they listen to a song, watch a movie, or anything else of that sort so if they didn't like it or something they could easily just remove it from their lives and never hear/see it again. I don't think you should make an artist, actor, etc. stop doing what they love doing, but I could see if it came to the point where it effected hundreds and thousands of people then I could see it being necessary to make them delete whatever it is.
Abbye Blocker
ReplyDelete1. Washington 2010
2. Wives,law enforcement officers, and other people
3. rap
4. No, that is taking away freedom of speech
5. yes
6. I believe that they could be called an influence, but anything above that is the person decision of what they would want to do with it.
7. I think that music entertainers record what they think will connect with their customer and make them want to buy it. The fans can decide if they want to listen to it or not, they are not going to forcefully make you listen.
khushi patel
ReplyDelete1.pennslyvania and 2010
2.his wife, law enforcement officer and others
3.rap
4.no because its our choice if we want to listen or not and we can ignore it and also freedom of speech
5.yes
6.no they cant because music is just a way to express emotions and anyone can say or create what they want to.
7.well the musicans can make whatever they want they think will make thier fans happy but in the end it will be our choice to buy it or listen to it. we can ignore it if we think its bad or will badly influence us.